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Bruins in Hollywood: Film Industry

Photo credit: Ava Johnson

By Jackson Wooton and Ava Johnson

May 8, 2024 11:24 p.m.

There is no place like Los Angeles if you’re looking to get into the entertainment industry. Many actors and industry aspirants come to UCLA to get a top-tier education while working in Hollywood. In this miniseries, Podcasts contributors sit down with UCLA students involved in the entertainment industry to hear about their careers and how they balance their work with their life as students. In this episode, Podcasts contributors Jackson Wooton and Ava Johnson sit down with Maxwell Jenkins and Rosalie Chiang.

Jackson Wooton: Have you ever wondered what it’s like being a student living and working in the heart of Hollywood? Well, welcome to Bruins in Hollywood, a Daily Bruin Podcasts miniseries where we sit down with different UCLA students working in the entertainment industry. They’ll share their experiences working in LA and advice that they have for fellow students.

My name is Jackson Wooton, and I’m here with my coworker Ava Johnson, we’re both Podcasts contributors for the Daily Bruin. On this episode, we’ll be joined by Maxwell Jenkins, a child actor who first gained experience working on Netflix’s “Lost in Space” and is currently working on several projects across the country. Rosalie Chiang is also joining us today, she starred in Pixar’s “Turning Red” and is now working on student films at UCLA. We’re super excited to hear from these UCLA freshmen about how to best balance work while being a full time student.

Well, first of all, I want to thank you all for being here. Let’s get right into it. So how did you first get into the film industry? We can start with Max?

Maxwell Jenkins: Sure, yeah. Kind of by complete accident. My mom was a voiceover actor in Chicago where I was born and raised and her agency opened an on-camera department, and I was this cute little kid like sitting in the room with her. And they kept asking to put me off for stuff for years and five years, they kept saying, “Hey, can we like put him out for this, this, this?” And she said, No, every time you know, I was going to public school, doing my thing. I was on the soccer team, whatever. And I think after about five years of saying no, just like this interview-like audition came in, I didn’t even have to learn any lines. I didn’t have to miss any school. I just went in. And the next thing I knew I was on a plane to LA so kinda took off from there. But I’ve been really, I think the biggest piece of advice that I received, I guess that my mom received and passed on to me, was what Henry Thomas told her when I was doing my first job was that there’s great power in the word no. And you have one chance to have a childhood, you know, the rest of your life for a career. So I really only did like one project a year. For the majority of my childhood, five years of that was the show called “Lost in Space” where, you know, it’s kind of great to have that because I’d have the one season and then I’d go and go back to school.

JW: Yeah. What has been your favorite project so far that you’ve worked on it?

MJ: That’s hard, favorite projects. I don’t know if I necessarily have a favorite I think every project has taught me something new. I’ve never taken an acting class before or anything like that. So I’ve always just kind of learned on the job. So I’m really grateful for each project for different reasons. I mean, “Lost in Space” is probably the most impactful. I did that show from when I was 11 until 16. So I grew up on that show and the cast and crew of that were like my family, I got to travel the world for that. Which is honestly, I think a big reason for why I’m so interested in Global Studies, which is my major here. I think the two have really gone hand in hand with each other. Getting to meet and work with people from various backgrounds and places. I think this this movie that I have coming out actually next next week on April 12 called “Arcadian” was the first film where I really had to work as an adult it was me Jaeden Martell, who’s someone I always looked up to as a as an actor who was two years older than me with a career that I was kind of emulating, proud to say he’s like a really close friend of mine right now is like a brother to me, but and Nicolas Cage – so master class every day, every single day is like a master class. So I definitely learned the most and grew up and grew up the most on those two projects, I think.

JW: Okay, cool. What about you? Rosalie?

Rosalie Chiang: Yeah, oh my gosh, I have. It’s crazy. That’s such a completely opposite story. I feel like I sort of started when I was around like nine years old because my parents, for my dad specifically, allowed me to watch a lot of TV so it was like Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. And just watching. I was like, it looks so fun. And then my parents completely not in the industry whatsoever. So they had no idea what they’re doing. And they’re just like, “Oh, here’s a class just join that and see what happens.” And so I did and then the teacher was like, “Yeah, she’s got potential” and I was like, okay, and it was the acting teacher who should have told me, “Oh, you get an agent or manager all that,” and that’s when my I just start submitting for agents and surprisingly enough, a lot of people liked me and I realized that the line that, I’m not kidding I’ve heard so many times is we don’t have anyone like you. And I’m pretty sure that was like referring to my race and like how there’s not that many Asians in the industry and that I was like the first one to come into their office. And so that’s why I had so much success in the beginning. And, you know, at first it was lowkey really slow. Like, I just, I had an audition here and there wasn’t, it wasn’t like too big of a deal. But then, all of a sudden, I think, like, I randomly started taking voiceover classes, from a guy my mom found on the internet sounds really sketchy, but it turned out, okay, because like, like six months after I took my first voiceover class, I can audition from Pixar. And they’re like, “Oh, is this just like, a little a little thing?” And I was like, Okay, I’ll try. And sure enough, they, I guess they liked me enough. And I’ve been very fortunate. I think when I first booked that they originally said it wasn’t for the actual movie itself, it was just for scratch recording. So scratch recording essentially is that they haven’t, like solidified any of the production, the design, the characters at all, and the plot, and they just needed a voice to animate off of as they try to figure that out. So that’s where I came in. I just did a little voice, but I’d never officially booked it, which was really disappointing. But I did that for two years. And I remember my mom telling me she was like, Rosalie, even if you don’t believe this, at least, you should be so grateful that you got to like work with Pixar a little bit. And no matter what, just do your best, because it’s all you can do. And so I did and then two years later, they told me, can you officially be May in turning red. And I was like, Oh my gosh, like all that work paid off. And so that I started when I was 12. And then I finished it when I was 16. And yeah, ever since then I’ve just been, I’ve been able to just keep on working. And I don’t know, I’ve been really fortunate about this and I’m so grateful I’m at the place where we are at like a TV show that I’ve I’m part of just got their budget approved. And so I’m really excited to see what happens with that next.

JW: have you always thought of yourself as a voice actor? Or do you see yourself more like an on screen presence?

RC: Yeah, I would say, um, the classes I first took, because they’re all live action. And that’s just what I watched. Like, when you’re watching a cartoon, you don’t really think about all the voices and the actors behind it. Exactly. So I just thought, Oh, I was like action. But then I think because I have more success in voiceover, I started to consider myself more of a voice actor. But then I think I remember my parents are like, “Rosie, don’t limit yourself to that. Try new things.” And then I was on American Born Chinese on Disney plus. And that was like my first real like, professional live action job. Like before that I was just shooting films and commercials. But after that, I was like, I love this too. I love live action acting too. So I would say I’m pretty equally split between the two.

Ava Johnson: And then for both of you, obviously, you’ve seen kind of pretty big success before you came to college. What made you decide that you wanted to go to college despite already having a career in film?

MJ: I mean, coming to college was never, I mean, to whatever extent I always knew I wanted to go to college. My whole life, it was never a question. Okay, am I going to apply to college? It was more okay, am I going to continue acting? My biggest thing was finding which school would work best for me. That ended up being UCLA. I think – I’m filming a project right now – And it’s going well. Fingers crossed, I get off the waitlist for FTV 33, so I can be a full time student. But, yeah, it’s been going well so far. And I mean, there’s no way I would be able to stay connected to the industry in any other other city. You know, I was between here and the East Coast and it was kind of a no brainer. I’ve loved UCLA. So coming to college was not was not really like a question. For me. It was more like, am I going to continue acting?

RC: Yeah, that’s like lowkey the same for me. Like it was never I always wanted to go to college. Like my parents were like, oh, you should definitely go to college. But that was something I really wanted for myself and like, I love acting and I’m so grateful for all the experiences and it’s like the fact that I already got to experience that is so crazy. And like no matter what happens in the future, like all I know is I really want that I didn’t have a normal child I was homeschooled.

JW: Interesting.

RC: Since, well, since first grade actually. And I would’ve done to public school but because acting was so great, it was coming out so great, I was like, well I guess I’m just gonna continue being homeschooled, and so all I knew I really wanted that like normal college experience, and I’m so grateful to be here and my parents and I rave about this all the time. UCLA was just like the perfect fit like perfect location like we’re in the center of all of it. And I’m so grateful for all the resources and everything.

MJ: Yeah, yeah. And just to bounce off that, I think, I think it’s also going to college and kind of expanding your interest is only going to be helpful for acting. I think one of the most helpful things for me in terms of my work has been not overworking myself at a young age and letting myself experience a whole lot of different things.Because in order to play a real person on camera, you kind of have to be a real person. So yeah, I think that was also, I always knew that, you know, going to college and majoring in something outside of the film industry would be super helpful for me. And the stories that I want to tell.

JW: So, wait, what’s your major, Rosalie?

RC: I’m a communication major with a film minor.

JW: How have you all felt college has been different than your regular growing up high school experience?

RC: So, I mean, the fact I remember like seeing my other friends and seeing like, their high school experience and being like, so jealous of that, because I was homeschooled. And like I remember, I don’t know, I feel like with homeschooling you have to be you have to like I have a lot of work work ethic, because you have to like plan your own schedule, you have to do this. And like, in a way, the reason why is because to make it more convenient for acting. And I’m very grateful for that. And that being said, like here in college, like, I’ve gotten so many out my agents, so like, ten auditions at a time. And they’re really weak. So I’d be like, You know what, let’s put a hold on these two weeks, so I don’t audition. So I can just focus on school for like, one second? And I don’t know, it’s just, oh, it’s been an interesting experience trying to balance that for sure.

MJ: Yeah, I think doing the whole, working at a pretty high level while going to public school wasn’t super easy considering that, you know, the schools don’t have to work with you. I know so many friends of mine, who are in the industry who wanted to stay in their normal school, but the school kicked them out. And I was really grateful that even though I went, my elementary school really worked with me, and I was grateful for that. But my high school, I went to the largest high school in Chicago, Lynn Tech is 5000 students. So they don’t have to work with you at all. They have 4999 other students they have to worry about. But they were really great in accommodating, and my teachers were amazing. And they would send me my work that I had to do. And I would get it done by the due date as best I could. I mean, it was definitely hard working. You know, 12 hour days in Ireland with a six hour time difference was not the easiest, especially when you’re feeling like an action or during the middle day and you’re tired and it’s cold out because it’s the Irish winter, but it definitely taught me to have a great work ethic. I think growing up in the circus too teaches you to have a great work ethic that’s translated over I mean, you spend thousands of hours perfecting a four minute act. So that work ethic really translated over I think, coming to a school like UCLA. I mean, another reason I picked UCLA was that I wanted to go to a massive school. I didn’t want to go to a small school where I felt like I’d be babied or, you know, had all these eyes on you. And at UCLA, there’s tons of opportunity, you can make it feel like a small school if you want. But at the end of the day, if you want to go out and you know, take opportunities away from UCLA, it’s not going to be an issue with the school there. In a weird way, the size almost helps you navigate both.

AJ: I mean, you both are talking about work ethic in high school. How did that translate to college? And how have you kind of had to change that since you got here?

RC: Because I was homeschooled, I remember like a lot of people telling me that, oh, you’ll be fine in college because it’s almost like being homeschooled where you have to You’re sort of taking care of yourself, and no teacher is going to be like yo, where’s your assignment? So in that case, I would say it translated really well. And it’s made the jump into like the transition into college really smooth. Because I will say for my first quarter I did freak out because I was like, I’ve never been to a normal school. I need to make sure everything is like, I may have spent a few all nighters in my first quarter on grades that were just completion grades. Haven’t done that since, but it’s definitely been it’s definitely been pretty smooth for me and I think like the only thing that was a little rough was when I started getting like loads of auditions and loads of jobs and stuff. But I think just being able to slowly ease into that, and I feel like I’m really grateful because you say does, like provide so many opportunities like with FPS, the Film Production Society like that gives me that, that opportunity to really like nurture my love for film and production and casting, I’m just so grateful for the opportunities they provided.

MJ: Yeah, coming to college, from a big high school, it just, I mean, every aspect of what was hard about going to a big high school was kind of magnified in terms of time management. I would say the academics weren’t as hard of a transition as time management was. When I got a paper, it wasn’t necessarily like, Oh, I just don’t think I’m gonna be able to write this good enough. It’s more so I need like a month to write a paper in the beginning of college, because, in a way, I got into my own head about it and, and really, really spent so much time on the minute details, which is, which is good, but unnecessary in a lot of situations. I think yeah. So time management was a big thing. I think it’s so easy to like, kind of pull back in your own shell when you get to a place like this, and, and really just kind of give yourself the excuse of, oh, it’s only the first quarter, oh, it’s only the second quarter, I don’t need to get involved yet. And then by the time you think you’re at the end of the year, and you’re not involved. So I’m really grateful that I didn’t let that happen. And I overbooked myself in the first quarter, which was stressful, but super necessary. And I kind of got to know people in a lot of different realms and create a support system there. I think that’s like, the biggest difference in college versus high school is your community’s not built in.

JW: Both of you have had a year here to reflect on everything in college. What has college meant to you? Clearly, you’ve established your social circles and your friends and what you want to do in life. So what about college is so special?

MJ: It’s a good question. I keep thinking about this, because I’ve been working in Atlanta now for a few weeks. And this is my first trip back. And I’ve been thinking and it really cemented when I got back here, it’s like, in a weird way college is just a four year extension on growing up. And it kind of gives you the space to slowly get used to being an adult, and you can try out a bunch of things. I still don’t know what I want to do with my life. I love acting, and I love filmmaking. It was never my original plan. My original plan was to be a doctor. That didn’t work out, I’m a global studies major. You know, I love acting. I also love Foreign Service, and I can definitely see myself trying to have a career in diplomacy. But yeah, I think what’s great about college is you really get the opportunity to try a bunch of different things. No one’s forcing you to pick a major your freshman year. So I’ve been able to take a bunch of different classes. I still haven’t taken a science class yet. I’m putting that off. I absolutely want to get a film minor if they let me into FTV 33. But yeah, we’ll see, I’ve really enjoyed, I’ve really enjoyed getting to try out a bunch of different things. And I think that’s what makes college so special. I mean, everyone can be in a bunch of different communities. I’m in a band. I’m in a fraternity. I’m an actor. I really love my major, but I’m also taking classes and other majors because Global Studies doesn’t have a lot of their own classes. Yeah, it’s a whole whole bunch of stuff. And I’m on the cheer team.

JW: You got a lot going on.

MJ: Yeah, a lot going on.

RC: No, I really agree with that. I feel like college has just been social UCLA, it’s just it’s given me the opportunity to learn so many things that I didn’t expect that I would want to learn. And like not only that, but I got to meet so many cool people. Like, I’m just friends with so many film majors, theater majors, even though I’m not personally in FTV. And just being able to see what they get to do. And it’s sort of giving me ideas of what I want to do. And like, it’s just also all the clubs. It’s like, these things that I did not do in high school at all, but they’re like, Yo, join because even if you have no experience whatsoever, it’s like it’s giving me that opportunity. I think that even, I was even considering the individual major option. And I’ve been talking to some people about maybe possibly like a film industry major. And just going to that and just having all the faculty being so supportive and wanting to help me has, just like, I don’t know, it’s been so rewarding and no matter what happens, all I know is I’m at UCLA, I’m going to be majoring in something I love. And we’ll see what happens from there.

AJ: So Max has mentioned this already, but what other extracurriculars are you a part of, if any, on campus?

RC: Yeah, I was part of the, I am on the flag football team and the taekwondo club. I was in a flag football game, and we were at USC, we were doing a game with them. We were just at a scrim, and my foot went like that, because the ground at USC was uneven. And I injured my foot. And so I was on crutches for three weeks, I would say, and so it’s still healing right now. So I’ve had to take a little bit of a break from that. But other than that, I’m sort of like, with my fellowships and with FPS, like I mentioned. And that’s been the best club ever because my filmmaker friends in that and she was always like, oh, you should join. And I originally applied for casting associate. But then I don’t know what happened there. Like, I got to be casting director instead. And I had no idea what I was doing. But that was the first time I got to be like, in the casting seat. I feel like as an actor, we’re always the ones who’s like, please hire me. But being the other perspective, as a casting director, that was the first time I got to really understand what goes through their minds, and why certain people, why they don’t, and it was really insightful for an actor like me.

MJ: Do you guys do self tapes? Or do you bring them to the room?

RC: We do both.

AJ: Max is like, write that down, write that down.

MJ: What is FPS?

RC: You don’t know FPS?

MJ: I’m so not involved in the film scene at UCLA.

RC: Interesting. So it’s actually so easy, because I only joined last quarter. And it’s just the film production society.

MJ: You guys make films?

RC: Yeah, every quarter, we’ll make three films.

MJ: Oh, wow.

RC: Yeah. And I remember the day I joined was like, happened to be the deadline of signups to be part of the crew. And I was like, “Oh, just like randomly fill it out.” And then I got it. And it was fine. And they’re so great. I like providing everyone with the opportunity, doesn’t matter what your experience is. If you have less experience, they just give you a smaller part. But you can easily work your way up, and it’s so fun.

JW: So it seems like you guys have a lot going on. How do you balance all of this college while also still going out and auditioning and working in the industry?

MJ: Google Calendar. Yeah, I never would, never make it. I was the type of kid who didn’t have folders, I would just like stuff papers in my backpack. So that was like a big thing. Speaking of time management, was just like organizing myself and making sure that I didn’t forget anything. Like it’s weird. I think coming to college, I became way more neurotic about that stuff than I was back home. But yeah, Google Calendar is huge for me. I have so many folders on my computer. Now with everything organized. I used to have a terrible desktop.

RC: Yeah, I honestly think it boils down to Google Calendar. I think because it was so, it’s really similar to homeschooling. Except I feel like in the like in high school, like it was just my parents telling me, “Yeah, would you get this done? Do you have this done?” And I do feel breathe a little bit more in college, because it’s just me and taking care of myself?

AJ: I guess kind of going back, you said that you’re not involved in any extracurriculars here that are related to film. Was that a conscious decision? Or did you just not know that that’s a thing?

MJ: I got here and like, yeah, it’s where I got here and just really dove into the academic world of it. Joining the pre-Law Society first week, I’d like to go to law school. We’ll see if that holds up. So far, but you never know how that’s gonna pan out. But, you know, I really just mostly saw UCLA as this academic thing. And college, this academic thing. I was the type of kid who really didn’t know anything about college until I was applying to college. I didn’t know how the application process worked, really, until I got to the actual application process. And then even coming here, I still am figuring stuff out about how stuff works and general education stuff I didn’t really get until I got here and my advisor had explained it to me three times. But yeah, now that I’m here and really see that it is so much more than that. I’d love to get involved in more of that. I just think right now I’m working on, on stuff outside of UCLA. I didn’t really have the bandwidth to really focus all of my energy on film and Have a person who wants to have a balance of it. So if I’m really focusing my energy outside of UCLA Film than the energy that I’m putting into UCLA, I’d rather have it be about other things. Yeah, look, yeah, I’ve had like the same mindset, and fall quarter, I was like, Oh, I don’t really know if I want to like, like, integrate film and acting into every part of my life. So the jobs in the industry seem to take up a lot of your life in a good way.

JW: How has that impacted your social scene here at UCLA?

MJ: Not too much. To be honest, I mean, in Chicago, no one cared if you were an actor or whatever. Like, I, that’s what I love about Chicago is the realest people on the planet, they really couldn’t care less. You know, at UCLA, I haven’t had a negative experience. It’s not what I’m trying to say. But people tend to care a little bit more just because I think people here are more involved in it. And it’s all around you, which is something I’ve noticed, but it hasn’t really negatively, or positively affected my social scene, mostly because I don’t think I lead with it. I’m really proud of the work I do. But I just like to let that speak for itself. And I don’t necessarily like, if I introduce myself to someone, they ask me what I do, I’ll start with, I go to UCLA, I play in a band. I’m on the cheer team. I’m a Global Studies major stuff like that. And then it’ll get around to, I really enjoy acting. I think that’s part of it, is that I just don’t lead with it. It’s just, it’s just something that I do and something I love, and I’ve never done it for other people. I’ve always just done it because it’s something I enjoy. My parents always said, if the minute you stop enjoying it, you need to not do this because you have enough. You have enough interest in talent in other fields where you can succeed elsewhere. But I’ve never not enjoyed it. It’s never felt like a job to me. I’m never even going to set. I’m going to work on the side of a freezing cold mountain at five in the morning with no cell service in rainy Vancouver. That even didn’t feel like a job. I woke up really excited to do it. Because there’s kind of nothing like it. There’s very few places in the world where you get to show up to work, play pretend with other people who love to play. There’s hundreds of people there dedicated to making sure that the pretend looks really good. And you get to work with interesting people from all over the world who’ve dedicated their lives as well to perfecting their specific craft. And it really rubs off on you. I mean, for the longest time I wanted to be a DP because I love the camera department on Lost in Space. B camera department gave me my first camera, 35 millimeter. And I started shooting on that moment to be a DP and I mean now directing, writing, producing kind of all that I’d love to get behind the camera. But point is, stuff rubs off on you when you’re on set. Think I probably got off track. I was just saying socially, yeah, it hasn’t really affected me.

RC: Yeah, I don’t know, it’s hard. I don’t lead with, I’m an actor. Like the amount of people I know, it took them a long time to find out I was an actor. And like my friends right now. Like, I remember, they were my friends before they found out and that’s been a common theme throughout most of my friends. They like, I would occasionally get a random text, it’d be like, Rosalie, you’re Hannah Montana, what the hell. They’d find the public Instagram and they’re like, “Oh my gosh,” and I’m like, “Oh, yeah, that’s just what I do.” Like, yeah, I’m an actor, but I do acting like I love acting. I love that thrill, that like the adrenaline rush you get there on set. And like when they want to set ends and you’re at home and you’re like, I have so much energy still but then what you pass out anyways. It’s like just the thrill of it. And I’m like, really grateful because you’re right, like, especially having a lot of theater film friends. It’s like they find out you’re an actor immediately changes a little bit and like they think they can get something out of you. But I genuinely can’t give anyone anything. But, yeah, just being able to just, I think socially, it’s been pretty good for me. My friends are so supportive of everything I do and they’re my friends not because of all that but because of me. That’s why I love them.

MJ: I think the amount of times that you know, I think because I say oh and I like to ask them and drop it. Yeah, I think the amount of times where people have just accepted that and thought, oh, school play. Yeah, a trailer for this film that I did. “Arcadian” just dropped a little bit ago, and I got a lot of texts from people who go here saying, “Oh, I didn’t know, that’s what you meant.” And I was like, yeah, yeah, I have a good time doing it.

JW: So both of you seem to really love acting and all that it’s given you and are very grateful. What kind of advice would you have for people who are trying to pursue that path as well?

MJ: Pursue other things. Yeah, no, but not in the sense that don’t do acting, do other things. But don’t limit yourself to just act. Yeah, you really can’t be picky in this industry. And I will, never didn’t even know how to phrase this. I’m super grateful that I had parents who really pushed me to do other things. Acting for the longest time was as much of an extracurricular, as you know, Model UN or my soccer team. Even when I was filming “Lost in Space”, which was this huge budget Netflix show, I’d go do that. And the people, the producers, and the people on that show, understood that as well. And they understood that I was having my child and at the same time and growing up on the show, so even though they didn’t have to be, they really made it feel like this nurturing environment might be snowboarding, which I don’t even think the studio knows that happened. But they let me go snowboarding which is generally a big no.

RC: Yeah, so I’d say have other interests, because it’s only going to enrich your work. And the ideas you have. I found that, you know, the biggest thing is if the type of projects aren’t coming to you that you want, create them. I’ve started looking into producing stuff. It’s a hard world to break into. But point is, if you have other interests other than acting, you’re gonna have really cool ideas. And that’s only going to help you. Yeah, oh my gosh, advice for people who want to be acting. I would say like, if you really genuinely want to do acting, because the amount of people I’ve met, who are like, Oh, they see me do it. They’re like, Oh, she can do it, I can do it. All they see is like, oh my gosh, she’s in this movie, she’s in the show, she’s met these people, I wanted to that too. That’s all they see. They don’t see the amount of tears behind it, the amount of worth ethic I have to have in order to succeed in this. They don’t see all of the dirty, grimy parts of it. And so I always when they, when they tell me they’re like, Oh, do you have any advice for me? And I’m like, depending on the person, and I’m like, Oh, just take classes? I usually say because it’s like, it can be a little bit icky, where I’m like, Are you saying you want to attribute genuine love acting? Or are you saying you love you want to do acting because you want the fame and prestige that comes with that name. And so usually, I would say like, the main advice I give to everyone is to work on your craft, to those who because I think the biggest thing is just waiting for that opportunity. I feel like as an actor, I’ve sort of just had to wait. But like, as you’re waiting for that opportunity, train until you get that opportunity. So that way when that opportunity passes, you’ll be ready and you’ll meet that sort of range that they want you to be in. And so I would say keep on working on it. Because that’s really all you can do and work on your tools, your voice here, your mind everything.

AJ: So we’re about to hit time but plans for the future just really quickly. I know you have something coming out soon, possibly anything else in the works for you or anything that’s coming out for you soon.

RC: Oh, I don’t know. I would say like I said my TV show just got approved or by the film commission. So fingers crossed for that, really excited. Just keep on the lookout for new stuff from me.

MJ: Yeah, film out April 12. “Arcadian”. So it’s really a family drama just set in the apocalypse. And it’s really, I’m really proud of how it turned out. So definitely go check that out. And then I’m filming this show in Atlanta called “Bondsman”. It’s with Kevin Bacon, Jennifer Nettles, Beth Grant, Damon Harrigan and me and it’s Amazon Bloomhouse production. And it’s, you can expect some really cool stuff from there. I don’t know how much they’ve released on it. But firstly, demons and music is what I play. I play Jennifer and Kevin’s son in that, and it’s been really great getting to work with them. We’re in production now. So obviously, there’s no release date, but it’s been going really well. So definitely look out for that.

AJ: I think that we’re good. Thank you guys so much for coming.

JW: Thank you for joining us today. We also want to thank our guests, Maxwell Jenkins and Rosalie Chiang, and Maxwell’s band the 529s for creating the music for today’s episode. You can listen to Bruins in Hollywood on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and a transcript of this show is available at dailybruin.com. See you next time.

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